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COCA Conference Call Summaries and Slides: Pregnancy and Smallpox Vaccination; SARS (May 2, 2003)

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Dr. Walt Orenstein, CDC, Director, National Immunization Program:

Questions and Answers:

James August, APSME:

Can you could be a little more specific about what can be done to tighten up the screening process?

Dr. Orenstein:

I think there are potentially several things that could be considered. One is that although none of the civilian cases would have been detected by pregnancy tests on the day of pregnancy, it still may be reasonable to have the tests available at the vaccination sites should there be any questions. Another thing that could be done would be to actually ask the woman for the date of her last menstrual period and whether she had unprotected sex during that period, in which case we would recommend against her being vaccinated. We could offer information on effective contraceptive methods if abstinence is not a possibility, such as hormonal contraceptives being more effective than barrier contraceptives and the like. The military has made a few changes with regard to their questions. I do not know exactly what they are, but there are just a few questions dealing with asking about the last menstrual period, trying again to raise the consciousness of the woman, and giving her a better timeframe for understanding when she might become pregnant and how long she has to avoid becoming pregnant.

SARS

Dr. Tonji Durant, Ph.D., SARS Epidemiology Team Leader:

-Asymptomatic or mild respiratory illness

-Moderate respiratory illness characterized by a temperature of 100.4 or greater, with the issue of subjective fever, and one or more of the clinical findings of respiratory illness, including for example, coughs, shortness of breath, difficulty breathing or hypoxia

-Severe respiratory illness characterized by a temperature of 100.4 or greater, again, exercising clinical judgment, and one or more clinical findings of respiratory illness as I mentioned before, and additionally, radiographic evidence of pneumonia or respiratory distress syndrome or autopsy findings consistent with pneumonia or respiratory distress syndrome without an identifiable cause.

Dr. Susan Maloney, CDC, Chief, Epidemiology and Special Studies, Division of Global Migration and Quarantine:

(1) Transmission and the magnitude and scope of the outbreak in an area affect the decision to issue a travel alert or advisory. We look at both the presence and absence of community transmission and evidence that cases have been exported from the area.

(2) We look at containment measures. The presence or absence of acceptable outbreak control measures in the affected area will impact the decision to issue an advisory or an alert. Areas where disease is occurring that are considered to have poor containment measures in place may have the potential for higher risk of transmission to exposed persons or translocation to other sites.

(3) The third criterion is the quality of surveillance. The criterion used is whether health authorities in the area have the ability to accurately detect and report cases and conduct appropriate contact tracing of exposed persons.

(4) The fourth criterion is the quality and accessibility of medical care. For example, areas where disease is occurring that are considered to have suboptimal infection control procedures or medical services in place or remote locations without access to medical evacuation may be considered to present a higher risk level to the traveler.

Questions and Answers:

Dr. L.J. Tan, American Medical Association:

Is there a little more information on the reports about relapses? Do we know that when these people were released and pronounced cured, they were truly viral free, or was it just a premature release, and that is the reason for the relapse reports?

Dr. Umesh Parashar, CDC, Medical Epidemiologist, Respiratory and Enteric Viruses Branch:

We have seen reports in the media from the Associated Press relating to cases, specifically from Hong Kong, in which some patients might have suffered a clinical relapse. At this point there really are no details on how many patients have suffered these relapses, what kind of symptoms they are experiencing during relapses, and other details related to their initial illness or any data on viral shedding or infection during relapses. These are obviously all key questions that we will continue to monitor, but very limited information is available to us at this point.

John Bondage, Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees:

During the last conference call there was some information about theories of transmission, whether it was via a droplet, airborne, fomite, etcetera. Is there any updated information on transmission?

Dr. Parashar:

We continue to look at the role of various modes of transmission including the ones you mentioned. The general feeling based on data that are being reported is that in most instances probably droplet and close contact are the modes of transmission. There are certain instances, such as a cluster in an apartment building in Hong Kong and some other clusters in hospitals, that suggest that there might be other routes of transmission, especially with some patients who are believed to be super spreaders and are highly efficient in transmitting the disease and have caused several secondary cases. But the evidence to support any other role of transmission at this point remains mainly anecdotal and conjectural. So close contact and droplets probably remain key. We are looking at other modes of transmission including airborne and the role of fomites, especially in hospital settings.

James August, American Federation of State, County, Municipal Employees:

Part of my question ties into the previous question about the evaluation. During the last call we raised a number of questions about the adequacy of respiratory protection, in particular guidelines that were being followed with N95 respirators and whether or not a higher level of protection is warranted. I will hold off until we get word on that. There was also during the last call a concern about recommendations to more quickly raise the index of suspicion, if you will, and to isolate and mask patients with respiratory symptoms and what recommendations might be coming out of that. And then as a connected question, as we are talking about worker protection issues, it occurred to me after the last call and it occurs to me now, why isn’t the Occupational Safety and Health Administration involved in these calls? And if they are not, what coordination is going on with OSHA?

Dr. John Jernigan, CDC, Co-Leader, sars Clinical and Infection Control Team:

We still think that the epidemiology of this illness suggests that most transmission occurs through large aerosol drops and through contact, either direct or indirect, and possibly through fomite transmission. We know that the organisms can survive for some period of time on environmental surfaces, so we are concerned about that. You may have seen that in Atlanta today results were released from a new case control study from Hong Kong that suggested that actually surgical masks were protective, which would go along more with droplet aerosol precautions, etcetera. However, there are these episodes, albeit rare, where there are patterns of transmission in which an airborne route of transmission can be ruled out. And specifically these tend to be a recurring thing that we are seeing around aerosol-generating events, such as intubation of patients, and so forth. I think somebody alluded that there might have been a cluster in Canada associated with that, and we are looking at that very carefully. We have a team that is helping investigate that, but we do not have any answers yet. There are some issues around fit testing, whether the equipment was used appropriately, etcetera. However, in light of that epidemiologic observation, we are considering strengthening the recommendations about respiratory protection around aerosol-generating procedures. In fact we are drafting a new guidance today. So we probably are going to be recommending for those specific situations in which healthcare workers are going to be performing a high risk aerosol generating procedure that higher levels of protection be employed than an N95.

I should make the point that fit testing probably is critically important. There is really not that much meaningful difference in protection between something like an N95, N99, N100 if things are fit tested properly. So fit testing may be crucial, may be the most important thing, more important than going to a higher level of protection. So stay tuned, because the recommendations for protection around aerosol generating events may change. For others, it will not. Again, we think that the vast majority of transmission occurs by large aerosol droplet or contact. I have forgotten the second part of your question.

James August:

Let me follow-up on the first part of the question first, which is that your current recommendations on aerosol generating procedures make a lot of sense, which is to delay any of these procedures unless deemed medically necessary. I think that becomes the key. But as far as fit testing, I am glad you raised it. It is a critically important issue. I have been participating in the CDC Advisory Group on Tuberculosis and updating those guidelines, and there have been a fair number of disparaging remarks made about the need to do fit testing there. I am glad to hear it, but it is contradicting what some of the discussion has been regarding TB precautions.

Dr. Jernigan:

I am basing all my comments on SARS and the epidemiology that we are observing on SARS, so I would rather not get into TB.

James August:

What I am saying is that since we are talking about the same type of respirators and the same type of respiratory program, I am glad that the need for, or the emphasis on, fit testing is being raised here. The second part of my question, again related, is what role does OSHA have in this, because the respirator protection, the respirator program, the fit testing, has already been quantified by OSHA, and I have not seen their participation in these discussions to date.

Dr. Baden:

We do have representatives from NIOSH on the SARS teams. Unfortunately they are not in the room here with us, so I cannot answer more directly about the connection with OSHA. I am sorry for that.

Dr. Jernigan:

Actually I remember what the second part of your question was – identifying patients early. And I would say that I agree that this is critically important for control. I think that recognizing patients early and isolating them is probably the most important factor in controlling this illness. So I think that emergency rooms, ambulatory care clinics-- any place that expects patients to walk in--should be thinking through both the administrative and the logistical measures that are necessary in early recognition. This includes even educating your patients to let you know ahead of time if they have respiratory illness and they think they might have been exposed to SARS; or putting signs in the waiting rooms to say, “If you have a respiratory illness, let somebody know so you can put a mask on”; and having your triage people educated about asking very early, “Are you here for respiratory symptoms?”; and if so, asking quick screening questions about possible exposure to SARS so that appropriate infection control measures can be taken. I think that thinking about that ahead of time, before the first SARS patient walks through your door, is going to save a lot of headache down the road.

Bill Borwegian, Service Employees International Union:

Thanks for all your hard work on this epidemic. I have actually been playing around with the website a little bit trying to get a very clear and concise message to folks on how to do respirator fit testing, and it gets kind of convoluted. The link goes to different places, and to really get to the meat of what you are looking at is very difficult. And my recommendation is to clarify how an employer can do fit testing, perhaps boil it down to a one- or two- page fact sheet as you have done such an excellent job on with all your other information. I think that would be very helpful. I am just trying to make it more practical, more user friendly to explain to people how fit testing is actually done from a logistical standpoint.

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